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#1 2017-12-24 16:15:20

Gateside
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Name: Nigel Gilligan
From: Cumbria
Registered: 2011-08-26
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Small slightly dumpy female cranefly, almost clear wings. ID?

Seen 5th May. Small size. Wings almost clear of spots. I've uploaded both left and right wings, since they are not quite identical.
I think this is a Limoniinae of some sort, but not even confident of that. I can't see any that have venation like this.

I don't really expect an ID with this one, but since it's Christmas ...

Nigel G.


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#2 2017-12-24 21:37:12

Geoff F
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Name: Geoff Foale
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Registered: 2014-05-12
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Re: Small slightly dumpy female cranefly, almost clear wings. ID?

Well, Nigel, I have run this one through the keys and come up with an answer; but definitely without any form of guarantee! I am just attempting to learn craneflies.

The Limnophilinae direct approach didn't get anywhere so I tried from the other direction - Species With a Closed Discal Cell.

Eventually I ended up with Erioconopa and probably E. trivalis which can come with or without a discal cell.

Just a starting point suggestion. What we really need now is for John to get bored with Christmas and look into this site, where he will probably be able to give a more certain answer.

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#3 2017-12-26 00:01:08

Gateside
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Name: Nigel Gilligan
From: Cumbria
Registered: 2011-08-26
Posts: 965

Re: Small slightly dumpy female cranefly, almost clear wings. ID?

I am impressed, Geoff.
Having looked at the Craneflies of the World site for that species, I can't fault it.  Well if it isn't that one, it must be close.

Thanks
Nigel G.

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#4 2018-01-05 22:44:02

johnkramer
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Name: John Kramer
From: Oadby, Leicester
Registered: 2008-02-20
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Re: Small slightly dumpy female cranefly, almost clear wings. ID?

Agreed, Geoff and Nigel. Erioconopa trivialis.  It has the right venation, colour, and the black line on top of the thorax.
John K

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#5 2018-01-06 00:47:07

Gateside
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Name: Nigel Gilligan
From: Cumbria
Registered: 2011-08-26
Posts: 965

Re: Small slightly dumpy female cranefly, almost clear wings. ID?

Excellent.
Thanks John.

Regards
Nigel

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