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#1 2018-11-02 19:00:19

Gateside
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Name: Nigel Gilligan
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Muscid? Maybe rather like some Muscina species...

Seen 1st November. Body about 10 mm long.
It looks like a Muscid, but whilst at the time I thought it might have been a Phaonia species, on checking later I thought the veins look wrong, and it doesn't have a pd bristle on the hind tibia on either side.

So I started to look further afield, in a bit of a hopeless way, and it seemed like a few of the Muscina species looked quite similar. Though this is rather a "stab-in the dark" method, not to be recommended!

Nigel G.


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#2 2018-11-02 19:32:55

AliCullaloe
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Name: Ali Shuttleworth
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Re: Muscid? Maybe rather like some Muscina species...

I'll have a pound each way on Mydaea urbana but I'd like to see a lot more features under a lens!


Cheers
Ali

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#3 2018-11-03 01:12:03

Gateside
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Name: Nigel Gilligan
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Re: Muscid? Maybe rather like some Muscina species...

Thanks Ali!

That looks to be in the right area. Though looking at some threads in Dipterists Info, it's probably not possible to be sure which one it is out of 2 or 3 species, at least without the fly - which I don't have.  Never mind ...

I see that the bristles on the sternopleuron are visible in the first image - that might be useful for an expert in this family. (There again, it might not). Anyway, I've now included a magnified image of the first one, in case it is slightly more useful.

Nigel G.


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#4 2018-11-03 15:01:32

Howard Bentley
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Name: Howard Bentley
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Re: Muscid? Maybe rather like some Muscina species...

Ali may well be right, but as he says it's only worth an each way bet. Certainly not Muscina, which has a bowed M-vein.

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#5 2018-11-03 19:58:08

Gateside
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Name: Nigel Gilligan
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Re: Muscid? Maybe rather like some Muscina species...

Thanks Howard.
(I'm not a betting man at all!)

Nigel

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