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#1 2018-04-04 00:42:30

coffeeman
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Name: Alan Smith
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family Heleomyzidae ... ?

I am going back to last year with these photos, tentatively asking how close I am with an id!

I'm thinking it is in the Heleomyzidae family? ... by the wing venation

and possibly something like Morpholeria ruficornis ... for no other reason than it looks like some online photos I found!

perhaps someone could get me fairly accurately at least to its genus

regards, Alan


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#2 2018-04-04 11:27:25

Howard Bentley
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Re: family Heleomyzidae ... ?

A very definite Heleomyzid, genus Suillia. Not sure about the species.

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#3 2018-04-04 22:29:16

coffeeman
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Re: family Heleomyzidae ... ?

thanks Howard, that's great

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#4 2018-04-04 23:22:41

coffeeman
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Re: family Heleomyzidae ... ?

just taking this ridiculously beyond my knowledge and confidence, I have found a key online to Suillia species by P.Withers and my following of it reaches Suillia dumicola

but with my shakey knowledge of some of the terminology I'd better leave it as Suillia sp.

:-)

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#5 2018-04-06 19:28:21

pbrighto
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Re: family Heleomyzidae ... ?

This is a mistake I made several times early on. The features that separate dumicola from others are quite difficult to see, so try the other way through the key and see if you get a plausible result.  The male genitalia need levering out with a fine pin so you can compare the surstyli with the diagrams in Withers.  With a female, it may be difficult to be sure of the ID.

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#6 2018-05-23 13:05:24

Andrzej
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Re: family Heleomyzidae ... ?

It is S. fucicornis!

Last edited by Andrzej (2018-05-23 13:05:57)

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#7 2018-06-04 00:54:23

coffeeman
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Re: family Heleomyzidae ... ?

only just seen your post Andrzej ... thank you :-)

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